On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, Till Maas wrote: > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 09:44:11AM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > > > > Chris Adams wrote: > > > > > IMHO you're developing the wrong distro. It is statements like yours > > > > > that contribute to the "Fedora is a rolling beta" perception (and I > > > > > don't think that's a good perception to have). If you want to target > > > > > rawhide with rolling releases of KDE, have fun. Once a release is out > > > > > the door, try not to just throw a new kitchen sink in for the hell of > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > Some people actually LIKE rolling releases, indeed some distros use > > > > completely rolling releases (e.g. Arch Linux). We are currently somewhere > > > > inbetween (partly release-based, partly rolling), and IMHO this compromise > > > > is working great. We get the advantages from a rolling release model, but > > > > with a lot less surprise breakage as in a true rolling model because > > > > disruptive changes like libata go only into new releases. > > > > > > > > > > If only we had some sort of rolling release, that tracked as closely with > > > upstream as possible, where the users of said release understood they were > > > drinking from the firehose. Meanwhile, along side that release we could > > > have periodic stable releases that don't move so quickly. That way you get > > > what you want and I get what I want. Oh wait! That's the world we live > > > in today. Next time a user tells you "I want a newer X" tell them > > > "Upgrade to rawhide". > > > > > > > <bad form replying to myself, sorry> > > > > Or to put it another way, why aren't you doing this and telling others to > > do this? If someone is on F11 still, why do you think they want the > > latest and greatest software? If they did, they'd upgrade to f12. And > > further still, why wouldn't they be running rawhide? The rolling update > > release exists. Why force rolling updates on people that haven't chosen > > to run rawhide? > > Did you read what he wrote? I feel tempted to just copy the paragraph > Kevin wrote again, because it already answers your question: Rawhide is > not partly rolling as Fedora is. > And a typical reason not to upgrade from F(current-1) to F(current) is > because the major updates may make systems unusable, e.g. X not working > anymore. But this does not mean that the same person does not want > bugfixes for e.g. yum-builddep installing build dependencies again. > Then lets fix that. Rolling updating everything isn't the answer to any problem. -Mike -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
