On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 10:26:05AM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 09:20:12AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > That would probably avoid the koji display problem but is sure to > > > introduce packaging bugs. The macro call has been put in this particular > > > place because experience shows that reduces human mistakes. It's never > > > easy to do back and forths between two parts of the same file, but in > > > this case they are compounded by the kind of syntax forced on us by the > > > use of a macro. Everything needs to be cramed on a single line. Any > > > syntax error and things fail without proper error messages (I've tried > > > to add some debug output. I caused mock build to stop dead). You can not > > > do as many calls as you want (like you can for %doc) or rpm will > > > complain of multiple %posts or %files for the same subpackage (without > > > telling you exactly which subpackage fails) > > > > > > The choice that was made was to minimize human error risk at the expense > > > of some prettiness in koji. I'd do the same choice today in a blink. We > > > are severely limited what the tools can do, but trying to accomodate > > > tools at all costs results in undue human burden and lots of bad > > > packages. Humans have limits too. > > > > Sorry, but the decision has been made, you have to put the macro where it > > belongs. Something which expands to scriptlets and %files sections needs to > > go where the scriptlets and %files sections belong, NOT in the Summary where > > it will be wrong in the SRPM. The problem is that it's not only within Koji > > that the unexpanded macros show up, but also in the shipped SRPMs! > > Why can't the following be used? > %{?_font_pkg:%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf}.conf AccanthisADFStd-*.otf} > That would be another option. > Since the macro is not really part of the Summary, there is no missing > information if it does not expand. > > Btw. the guidelines looks incomplete. This is the second sentence: > > | Because SRPMs are built without the package's BuildRequires installed, > | depending on macros defined outside of the spec file can easily lead to > | this issue. > > But there is no real explanation of "the issue", e.g. the problem that > macros that are not really intended to build the packages description > are shown unexpanded in the description. > Thanks. Added a few words about the end effect we're trying to avoid. -Toshio
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