On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:56:53PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 04:16:30PM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> > > >> > > Not to reduce the debate to too much of a soundbite, but it almost > >> > > seems like attempting to decide whether we want Fedora to be Debian, > >> > > or to be something useful for users of it. I'd always pick the latter... > >> > > > >> > The problem with this sound bite is that Fedora Project and Fedora product > >> > get mixed up. Users use a Fedora product. The Fedora Project attracts the > >> > contributors who make various Fedora products. You can't continue to be an > >> > attractive place for people wanting to experiment with creating different > >> > visions that don't necessarily appeal to the target audience if they're > >> > always going to be a second class citizen. > >> > > >> > >> These are 3 if's and they're impossible to say for sure right now but over > >> time we'll know: > >> > >> If we don't have a coherent vision for what our products are and who they > >> are for.. > >> > >Let's cut this off right at the top :-) If a vision for what our products > >are is a problem why don't we have the people producing the products explain > >their vision? I keep saying that vision for products needs to come from the > >people producing those products, not from the Board or FESCo. > > > >I agree with things like Robin's statement of how having a target audience > >helps to market a product. What I think is wrong is to have the Fedora Board > >define the target audience that then constrains all of the products that > >Fedora produces. > > What? No. The Board has defined a default spin, and is working on a target > audience for the default Spin. The Board has explicitly declared that SPINS > are ALLOWED to define their OWN target audience. > Does the Board create the default Spin? No? So why shouldn't the Board just ask the people who create the spin to clearly state their target audience? -Toshio
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