On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 04:16:30PM -0600, Mike McGrath wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> > >> > > Not to reduce the debate to too much of a soundbite, but it almost >> > > seems like attempting to decide whether we want Fedora to be Debian, >> > > or to be something useful for users of it. I'd always pick the latter... >> > > >> > The problem with this sound bite is that Fedora Project and Fedora product >> > get mixed up. Users use a Fedora product. The Fedora Project attracts the >> > contributors who make various Fedora products. You can't continue to be an >> > attractive place for people wanting to experiment with creating different >> > visions that don't necessarily appeal to the target audience if they're >> > always going to be a second class citizen. >> > >> >> These are 3 if's and they're impossible to say for sure right now but over >> time we'll know: >> >> If we don't have a coherent vision for what our products are and who they >> are for.. >> >Let's cut this off right at the top :-) If a vision for what our products >are is a problem why don't we have the people producing the products explain >their vision? I keep saying that vision for products needs to come from the >people producing those products, not from the Board or FESCo. > >I agree with things like Robin's statement of how having a target audience >helps to market a product. What I think is wrong is to have the Fedora Board >define the target audience that then constrains all of the products that >Fedora produces. What? No. The Board has defined a default spin, and is working on a target audience for the default Spin. The Board has explicitly declared that SPINS are ALLOWED to define their OWN target audience. josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
