Jesse Keating wrote: > People with cargo cult knowledge knew what they meant but not new > contributers nor community users. The change was for the better as it > more clearly defines the milestones. So "clearly" that many feature owners are confused about what they mean? And don't forget that development snapshots are primarily for developers (in fact many projects use "developER release" as synonymous to "developMENT release"), so it's important that THEY are familiar with the terms. > Any change is going to cause some confusion with those who are used to the > previous state but to change t again would just be worse. In no time > you'll be used to the change and rail against any fruther change. I don't think we've reached that point at all. I think justifying the change post-facto as a one-time change for the shorter F12 cycle (even though that wasn't the plan) and changing back to the tried and true terminology from F11 for F13 would not leave many people confused. And worst case, in the unlikely event people already got used to the terms from F12, the worst that could happen after reverting to the previous terms is that they would deliver F13 features one milestone TOO EARLY. That would actually be a good thing. ;-) So really, I see no practical argument against switching back to the Alpha/Beta/Preview naming (and reintroducing the old Alpha – again, as useless as it was in practice, the psychological impact on developers shouldn't be underestimated). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list