On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:08 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 12:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Sure, and I was always happy to write in GNOME and KDE versions as > > 'Features' when writing release blurbs for Mandriva. But that's just > > pure PR. PR is not all our feature process does - it comes with all this > > bureaucracy, intended for dealing with experimental stuff which may turn > > out to have been a bad idea, attached to it, it's _not_ a pure PR > > exercise. Which leads to the absurdity we have here, the suggestion that > > the GNOME 2.28 'feature' should be 'dropped' for Fedora 12 (does anyone > > really think we're going to ship it with GNOME 2.26?) > > Our feature process covers both, PR and experimental things, as well as > things that just need a lot of coordination, or just some extra looking > at for testing. If you really want to create one process for pure PR > features, another process for experimental things, and another process > for things that just need some coordination, I welcome you to draft > those proposals. Ahh, bureaucracy, don't you love it. ;) My idea of a 'process' for pure PR features is 'have a look at the product then write the damn thing', so I am not your guy for drafting process documents... However, that's not my suggestion. I made that earlier in the thread, and it's simple: if there are actual features within new versions of some software that we ship that should count as Fedora features - i.e. they're significant changes that it makes sense to 'gatekeep' at the Fedora level, in terms of organizing Fedora-specific concerted testing and providing a contingency plan in case they turn out to be a bad idea - then isolate _those_ and list _them_ as features, don't just call a version number a feature. XZ payloads in RPM is a feature done right, according to this view. We don't say that 'RPM (whatever-EVR-introduced-XZ-payloads)' is a feature, we say XZ payloads are a feature. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
