On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 12:24 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 11:41 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Again, that applies to _everything in the distro_. I don't think 'it's a > > new version' can be a feature. If we identify something particular > > within the GNOME or KDE package set which is a significant enough change > > to qualify as a Fedora feature, fine, submit it as such. But just > > declaring the entire version upgrade to be a feature seems a bit weird > > to me. > > And not declaring, testing, and coordinating version updates of key sets > of software such as Gnome and KDE also seems weird to me. Listing the > included versions of these desktops is a time honored tradition for > Linux distros, without which the constant questions are "what version of > $foo does it include?". Sure, and I was always happy to write in GNOME and KDE versions as 'Features' when writing release blurbs for Mandriva. But that's just pure PR. PR is not all our feature process does - it comes with all this bureaucracy, intended for dealing with experimental stuff which may turn out to have been a bad idea, attached to it, it's _not_ a pure PR exercise. Which leads to the absurdity we have here, the suggestion that the GNOME 2.28 'feature' should be 'dropped' for Fedora 12 (does anyone really think we're going to ship it with GNOME 2.26?) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list