Jeff Spaleta wrote: > But the laypress can't seem to be bothered to actually be a part of the > development processes which would actually drive solutions to problems.. Because that'd require them to actually USE the product for a nontrivial amount of time, so that they can give feedback about improvements or regressions, not just install them, run some automated benchmark suite, write a bullsh*t article about the results and then reformat the disk with something different (which is what they're doing now). Reviews from the press are just as useless as reviews from some random distrohopper (which also pollute the blogosphere), because that's pretty much what those journalists are. The real problem is that people believe what the laypress writes, be it misinformation due to lack of research or understanding of the field, outdated information, worthless benchmarks or "reviews" full of "problems" which are mostly of the PEBKAC type and of whining about actual bugs without any hint at the details required to actually fix them nor any attempt to report them to the correct place (developers, not readers). > I know its a pipe dream...the laypress taking a proactive interest in > seeing problems resolved instead of just talking about them. I don't think it's ever going to happen. The laypress should just die, people need to go directly to the developers to get actual information. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list