On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Casey Dahlin<cdahlin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Because they gave us a bad grade and now we're butthurt and we're taking our ball and going home so there? Because that's what everyone's going to hear, even if its not what we say. What I have a problem with is the lack of information about methodology that would allow me to interpret the result in comparison to other results using slightly different methodology.. I don't have a problem getting a bad grade. I do have a general problem with people who publish unexpected behavior regressions but don't actually use the open development process to drive feedback directly to developers. If we deserve a black eye over it, fine I'll stand up and take my punches. But the laypress can't seem to be bothered to actually be a part of the development processes which would actually drive solutions to problems..and that bothers me..greatly. For some reason, once you find yourself a soapbox to stand on, you immune to actually reporting problems in the established communication channels. This is the sort of thing I would have love them to do at the alpha and beta release points...open bug tickets about..and if the issue is unsolved by release time..then so be it..just as long as they link to the bug ticket and the technical discussion on the ticket when they punch in the eye. I know its a pipe dream...the laypress taking a proactive interest in seeing problems resolved instead of just talking about them. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list