On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 00:47 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > I know its a pipe dream...the laypress taking a proactive interest in > > seeing problems resolved instead of just talking about them. > > I don't think it's ever going to happen. The laypress should just die, > people need to go directly to the developers to get actual information. Right, because developers are legendarily happy to spend their days painstakingly explaining things to people with little clue. ;) Seriously, I agree with many of your complaints about 'the press' (especially the general interest tech press) when it comes to 'reviewing distributions', but I find it worthwhile to spend time wading through the acres of reviews, because there is the occasional nugget of useful feedback in there if you look hard enough, and if you spend some time developing a relationship with the people who write the reviews, you can a) get more useful information out of them to feed to developers in a proper fashion, and b) subtly influence them towards producing slightly nicer reviews in future, by making sure they have useful information available and understand how certain things work when they're writing their reviews. I've found quite a lot of reviewers are actually quite smart and savvy guys (and even file bug reports - yes, it's true!), but they're often working to word limits and writing for audiences (and clueless editors...), and a detailed explanation of complex issues doesn't play well in that context. Of course, that's something that should more be done by community/pr-focused people, not developers, probably. Developers have more immediately valuable things to spend their time on, for which their expertise is obviously much better suited. Which is all as it should be. I would agree developers shouldn't spend too much time reading crappily written reviews :) you guys have better things to do. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list