On Fri, 01.05.09 02:56, Matthew Garrett (mjg@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > This is clearly what our friends at Ubuntu think, given that quite late > > in their release cycle, they dropped the new gnome-volume-control in > > favour of gst-mixer *by default* (a much more invasive change than is > > being proposed here). They made this change on March 3rd, 2009, and have > > since shipped with it. I haven't seen any complaints about it. > > Having been a part of the Ubuntu decision making process, I think using > Ubuntu as any sort of comparison here weakens the argument. We're > talking about the distribution that shipped compiz by default 18 months > ago, desite it clearly being a regression in a huge number of different > ways. Also, the comparison with Ubuntu stinks anyway. They had an earlier freeze than we did. They were looking at an earlier version of the new g-v-c. And the based their distro on PA 0.9.14, however the new g-v-c is designed for 0.9.15 which was quite a big update. After all, it's *we* who do the development. Both Bastien and I follow the Fedora release cycle for our development. Since Ubuntu is not doing any development in this area it is very likely that they'll continue to be a few steps behind us unless they'd sync their releases to the Fedora releases. So all in all, comparing Ubuntu and Fedora here is comparing apples and oranges. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list