On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 03:33:28PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > Remember kids, we probably shouldn't be listening to you. Red Hat > Desktop == Smart. You == Dumb. The problem with the desktop is that it's obvious, looks simple and everyone has an opinion on it. But not all of these opinions are equally valid. This kind of situation is much easier to deal with in, say, the kernel VM system - in that case it would be perfectly acceptable for people who spend their entire working lives concentrating on a specific topic to say that they know better than people who occasionally touch upon it. The real question is whether we believe that the people who spend their lives working on the Fedora desktop have a better understanding of the issues than people who don't. I've disagreed with various decisions they've made, and in some cases argued quite strongly. I've then often discovered that they've done significantly more research than I have, have carefully considered the issues that I thought were blindingly obvious and have come to a conclusion based on the work that they've done. In the majority of cases I've ended up agreeing with their position. These aren't dictators who change software behaviour on a whim. They're professionals who are doing their very best to make the Fedora desktop a modern and usable system. And so it's entirely unsurprising if they become upset at being told by a group of people who *don't* work in that field that they're wrong, in the same way that I'd end up pretty furious if FESCO overruled me on a power management issue ten days after we passed final freeze. It's not about smart versus dumb. If we trust these people then we have to assume that in most cases they *will* know better than people who argue against them on mailing lists. And if we don't trust them then there's something pretty fundamentally wrong with the way we're producing this distribution. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list