On Sun, 26.04.09 17:25, David Woodhouse (dwmw2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > the same way it is not necessary to install gcc, patch, git > > and the kernel sources just because the kernel drivers might need > > quirks, too. > > I think that's a good analogy. We don't just declare use cases to be > uninteresting and refuse to support them in the kernel -- we add quirks, > so the user can make things work properly. The user retains full > control. > > We should be allowing the user to retain full control of the mixer too > -- they definitely shouldn't need to use it in the _default_ case, but > there should be _some_ way for them to fix things when we don't get it > right. Preferably in such a way that we can learn from what they've > done, improve our database and get it right for similar machines in the > future. Ah, now you admit that the low-level alsa mixer is not necessary for the default case. So why do you want to push it into the default install then? Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list