On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Lennart Poettering wrote: > We want to control the 'outermost' volume slider. Because that's the > one that most likely controls the actual analog amplifier if there is > any. Controlling 'PCM' is kind of pointless on most modern cards since > it is implemented digitally. Surely a nice thing in theory. But in reality, it's not always that clear. I recently had a dual boot system with rawhide and windows. Windows sound was fine, right volume et all. Volume knob at the speakers was at 50% and the software mixer at 75%. Now booting to Linux, sound is barely audible. Turning up the volume to 100% in the mixer and turning the speakers to full was barely enough to understand the music. Using an alsa mixer to turn up the PCM volume to 100% somewhat fixed that. But turning to an alsamixer to work around a problem with the current pamixer can't be a long term solution. What is the long term way? And no, I don't care for F11. Releases are overrated anyway. regards, andreas -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list