On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 15:42 -0300, Horst H. von Brand wrote: > Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:28 +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > > > * Ralf Corsepius [22/12/2008 13:51] : > > > > > > > > Right, implementing a fork is the last resort, when an opensource > > > > project's leadership doesn't want listen. > > > > > > That's not true. > > > > > > We've discussed this idea several times and, when people are told that > > > they need to show there's a group of contributors to this project before > > > infrastructure is dedicated to it, they don't fork the updates, they > > > start whining and making up a whole bunch of excuses to justify not > > > doing the work. > > > > We are turning in circles - It's a hen and egg problem. > > No... ... sssst ... bang ... a bullet ... > > FESCo brushes off volunteers, > > Haven't seen such. > > the @RHs (here A.C) gun-down any > > volunteers, > > What I just saw was an _encouragement_ to go and just do it. That is not > "gun down". Well, to me these "just do it" read as "piss off, we (RH) are not willing to support any such proposal". > > Patrice already turned away from Fedora, I for one have significantly > > cut down my involvement into Fedora and am considering to further cut it > > down. > > Sorry to hear that. Yes. And ... rest assured, this mail of yours, as well as a similar reply of yours in a preceding similar threat have further added to it. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list