On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Dimi Paun <dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 02:40 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> You are being self contradictory. If you don't have any hard numbers, >> you cannot actually claim a majority at all and yes, finding hard >> numbers is difficult if not impossible and doesn't really translate >> into usability anyway. I wouldn't blame you for this. > > But this is exactly what drives people up the wall: > - Please change X > - Why would we, how can we know if other like it like that? > - Look, there's plenty of indication on the web that that's the case > - Pfff, even 95% numbers are not good, we want HARD numbers! > - ... but ... that's nearly impossible to get :( > - Sure, we know it's impossible, that's why we asked for them. Duh! exactly right > > No matter on each side of the debate you are, you must admit this is > insanely frustrating! This is not constructive in any way. Why don't > you have the guts to come out and say: > "Fsck off, this is the way we like it. End of discussion." I wish they would say that. but then again that would have proven me being right with all my "rants" about dictatorship which they probably try to avoid. > > Why mimic this lame community involvement?!? Don't you realize people > know when they are taken for fools? like we are now for about 200 posts. > > And you know what? We *have* hard numbers! We know quite well the > percentage of people using Windows and MacOSX. It is close to 95%. Every > time I pointed that out it was completely ignored. I'm not going to give an argument against it ^_^ i agree with you on all your points > > I have presented a fairly tight argument why the default was not chosen > wisely. Did I receive *one* decent counter argument? Stuff along the > lines of "Come back with several solid usability studies" is just > ludicrous. that seems to be the way this "Meritocracy" likes to work. > > -- > Dimi Paun <dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Lattica, Inc. I am kinda stunned by the divided community in this subject.. specially since probably about 90 - 95% is in favor of the change and roughly 5% isn't and yet they fail to admit that they made a "small" mistake 4 years ago. interesting and sad to see. This whole discussion gave me a good insight in all of that. I however don't intent to put more heat in this discussion so will be a little more friendly in my responses now (and shorter ones). Mark -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
