On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 2:47 AM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 19:04 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 09:20:35PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > We could look at what it would take to upstream the app tests we have > > > already for Fedora. What I'm afraid of is that we'd wind up finding > > > some subtle difference in theme or font rendering meant we'd have to > > > duplicate all the needles, and re-do them all twice every time freetype > > > or cantarell sneezes... > > > > So, um, maybe this is another place we could talk with GNOME upstream. Could > > we have those upstream tests run on Rawhide? > > > > Also: where does GNOME _expect_ the human-based QA to happen? Especially for > > the applications, it's going to be hard to automate thoroughly. Maybe we can > > figure out something better there too. > > So the answer to both those questions is, AIUI, kinda the same: GNOME > wants the testing run on GNOME OS. > > https://os.gnome.org/ > > which is (supposed to be, I don't know how closely it meets the goal > ATM) a nightly live GNOME image with the latest versions of everything > in it. > > Testing that is much more useful to upstream than testing Rawhide, > because we certainly aren't updating all the bits of GNOME in Rawhide > nightly. But if it's not built on Fedora (I don't think it is), it may > well have differences in theme and font configuration that might make > Fedora's openQA needles not match, which is the problem I'm concerned > about with sharing the tests. Just a suggestion. Most of the workstation blocker issues with apps could have been detected by using the gnome nightly flatpaks (build in gnome's gitlab CI). https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Nightly I use Silverblue rawhide and most of my apps are Nightly builds that I frequently update. This way I jump into fixing/reporting bugs as soon as I encounter them. _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure