On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The problem is with freshly generated files, if the timezone is say > CET, then those files (and also the filesystem creation timestamp in > the superblock) get created at UTC+1, if then after boot the user corrects > the timezone to say UTC-6 and within those 7 hours reboots the user > will get a bunch of complaints from fsck and other tools about timestamps > in the future. IIRC. esp. the fsck issue was nasty. > > Really this is a solved problem for 8 years or so now, the anaconda team > has gone over this in much detail back then. We simply MUST ask for the > timezone info before writing anything to disk. *shrug* considering 90% of the rest of the world's in-use OS's do not have this requirement or problem, to me it sounds like a bug. I'll add it to my test list and see what really breaks still but I think this is specious logic at play. And in fact fsck shouldn't be run automatically anyway these days, it's archaic. Ext4, XFS, and Btrfs do log replay at mount time when needed. And in any case, the timezone information is available via GetTime() from UEFI runtime services, but the installer not only does not use this information, still badgering the user for it, it then proceeds to overwrite the TimeZone information with UTC instead, without the user's knowledge or permission. That's very clearly data loss and creates the very condition of timezone ambiguity we had on BIOS firmware machines, that was supposed to be fixed with UEFI. So in effect, we not only fail to ignore the UEFI spec for no technical reason, trouble the user for this information unnecessarily, we further proceed to sabotaging the attempt to make device time and location unambiguous. Time itself remains unambiguous when TimeZone is set to UTC, but now the data indicting purported physical location of the device is lost. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx