Re: User's Feedback

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Bastien Nocera píše v St 03. 05. 2017 v 06:50 -0400:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Bastien Nocera píše v St 03. 05. 2017 v 05:05 -0400:
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > Hi,
> > > > last week I asked on my Czech blog what people are missing on
> > > > the
> > > > Linux
> > > > desktop, mainly Fedora Workstation. It was picked by all major
> > > > Czech
> > > > Linux sites and received literally hundreds of responses. I
> > > > went
> > > > through them and created a summary for you. Some of it are
> > > > well-
> > > > known
> > > > issues/features, some points were new to me. If something is
> > > > not
> > > > clear,
> > > > just let me know and I'll be happy to explain it:
> > > 
> > > This kind of mega bug list is really unactionable. Somebody needs
> > > to
> > > take all the feedback, review it, and then start *separate*
> > > discussions
> > > about specific items.
> > > 
> > > There's a bunch of items in there that are plain bugs, and a few
> > > that
> > > make no sense because they ask for things that already exist[1].
> > > Reviewing and removing those items would shrink the apparent
> > > task,
> > > and
> > > avoid megathreads where nothing much ends up happening.
> > 
> > It was not meant to be an actionable list, I just wanted to share
> > what
> > users see as the main pain points.
> > I've already filed a couple of bugs about those problems and am
> > making
> > action items for problems in components my team is responsible for.
> > If
> > I have time, I'll try to process the rest into actionable items,
> > too.
> > 
> > > [1]: There's been a GSettings key for disabling animations for at
> > > least
> > > 7 years, there probably was a GConf one for 10 years before that
> > > too.
> > 
> > Well, then it's a problem of discoverability. People just don't
> > know
> > about this key and they rather use an extension (Inpatient). I
> > think
> > running Fedora Workstation on an older computer is enough common to
> > have it at least in the Tweak Tool.
> 
> It's already in gnome-tweak-tool as mentioned in another mail, but
> more
> importantly it will make no difference to the machine's performance.
> You
> could apply snake oil and disable the animations.
> 
> The GNOME Events box machines are respectively 7 and 10 years now, I
> believe
> (see the section at the bottom: http://www.hadess.net/2015/04/jdll-20
> 15.html)
> 
> Both machines are capable of running GNOME, playing videos, and
> launching
> multiple applications at the same time. The only things that make a
> difference
> are the amount of RAM in the machine, so we can open multiple
> applications
> without swapping, and whether the storage device is a spinning hard
> disk, or
> a faster Flash drive.

I use Fedora Workstation on an EndlessPC. It's not a particularly
powerful machine, but it's sold with an GS-based system, and I wouldn't
call it a smooth experience even without any apps opened.
My mom's T400 is at the edge. 

> Being able to disable animations could still be an accessibility
> setting,
> but it will have no impact on people's ability to run GNOME and
> applications
> on older machines.

That's correct, I must admit after some testing. Maybe people just
confuse it with the low-graphics mode (or whatever they call it) from
Ubuntu/Unity which is tuned to work on less powerful computers and
where the effects are disabled and think that disabling effects in GS
would have the same impact on performance.

Jiri

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