Re: Proposal for adding Chrome to software available in GNOME Software

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On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-10-26 at 10:48 -0400, Christian Schaller wrote:
>> Well what we keep hearing is that people end up wanting Chrome for
>> Flash support
>> and for Google Hangouts support.
>
> Chrome is killing Flash in the very short-term future, so this is not a
> good reason to pursue Chrome.

They killed it last month for non-user visible content, like page
analytics, and this December they use HTML5 by default. It will still
be there as a fallback for sites that only use Flash, and for those
you'll have to opt in to use Flash. So it's a slow death. A large
number of big sites are still using it, and will continue to use it.

And then there's this, which suggests a slow death indeed.
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2016/08/beta-news-flash-player-npapi-for-linux.html

Also, there's such a thing as DRM video content that does not depend
on Flash, that uses CDM.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm

I tested this on several sites that support it. But on Fedora 24 and
25, the plugin being downloaded by clicking on the Enable DRM button
when prompted by FireFox is thwarted by this SELinux bug.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1380253

I just installed Chromium from Gnome Software on an up to date default
clean installation of Fedora 24, and tried to view that same content.
There's no request to enable DRM, but it also won't play the content.
The video cutout says only "Requested Format Not Available None of the
requested formats are available for this content." There's no SELinux
alert, no other error message, or other work around presented.

On ABC, CBS, and BBC News, they all explicitly wanted Flash to play
back the content.

CNN is a standout where some of their video plays out of the box, but
a good chunk of it wants the h264 plugin enabled, which requires a
couple extra steps.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenH264


I'd pretty much bet dollars to donuts any content that was using Flash
for DRM reasons, will use the DRM plugins that currently aren't
working on Fedora 24 or 25 in Firefox; and aren't even requested (?)
by Chromium. That same content always plays without problem on Chrome.


-- 
Chris Murphy
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