Michael Catanzaro píše v Út 13. 09. 2016 v 14:59 -0500: > On Sun, 2016-09-11 at 18:18 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > > Agreed, Bijiben 3.20 is broken, so I don't see a reason to include > > it. > > FYI, you've responded to my proposals for F24... this one was already > implemented last cycle! > > > > > I would keep it in for the time being, but it's true GNOME Boxes > > need > > to improve. I'm not sure if we can achieve it with the current > > scope. > > It's too simple to be used by power users. I've talked to Fedora QA > > several times what would have to change in order to make them > > switch > > to > > Boxes as their daily drivers, so that it can get enough test > > coverage. > > There are quite a few fundamental features missing. > > I don't think that with the current scope of Boxes it's something > > the > > virt guys who now develop virt-manager would be interested in. > > Again > > many fundamental features missing. > > So the problem of Boxes is that it could be a nice tool for average > > users, but people who can move it forward don't use it and because > > of > > missing features it's not really interesting for them. > > Well most of the bugs I complained about got fixed; it works fine for > me now. I use it on a daily basis and I'm pretty happy with it. When > I > tried to use virt-manager, I couldn't figure out how to create and > start a VM, so I'm pretty sure that's not a viable competitor. :) > > We actually wound up moving Boxes to GNOME core upstream, shortly > after I wrote this complaint and Zeeshan started looking into those > bugs. There's really only one major problem I see remaining regarding > virtualization, which is that sometimes it gets stuck just spinning > its spinner forever. That's unfortunate, but not the end of the > world. The other major problem is that it replaced our remote desktop > client, vinagre, but it can't handle RDP yet. That would be a cool > project to work on. I spoke with Kamil Paral of the Fedora QA the other day and when I mentioned Boxes his comment was: "We tried to use it again, but found it completely broken." We didn't go into any details and I will certainly speak more in detail about with them. But this is what I got after insisting they should use it on daily basis to properly test it. I've used both virt-manager and Boxes and while you're right that the user experience of virt-manager is pretty bad it's a tool that has never failed on me unlike Boxes (people around me have similar experience) + it covers pretty much all features required by power users. In the last LinuxVoice magazine virt-manager even won the contest of desktop virtualization tools for Linux, so apparently others don't find it so hopeless and not being a viable contender. And BTW Adding RDP support to Boxes is planned. Jiri
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