On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 11:10 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I guess Evolution might be controversial; I use it religiously, and > many of you probably do too. But the user interface is complex and > confusing; users should not be exposed to this by default, barring > drastic UI changes that are outside the scope of the Evolution > project. > Evolution is a great mail client for power users, but I'm confident > that the average user will be better off with webmail services; folks > who want a desktop client can simply install one, after all. We > intend > to replace it with GNOME Mail eventually, but nobody has started > developing it yet. I propose we drop Evolution, but I have not done > so > yet, pending further discussion. One of our interns performed a usability test on Evolution. The results are at [1] and are highly negative. It seems the users had difficulty configuring Evolution to use their mail accounts; in particular, Gmail always rejects your password without any error message unless you configure Gmail to allow access to "less secure apps." Users found the interface to be outdated. All of the users indicated that, outside of the usability test, they exclusively use webmail. Upstream, we emphasize the recommendation to not install Evolution by default by including it in the extra apps moduleset, rather than the core moduleset. I really no longer see the value in diverging from upstream here. Users who want it can easily find it. We might move Geary into core in the future, now that it's actively maintained again, if it improves to the point that it provides a really compelling user experience, but the Evolution developers have been clear that they don't want any UI changes. We should drop it (without replacement) for F26. I don't agree that mail clients are expected functionality for new computers in the age of webmail. And anyone typing Evolution in the overview will still find it, thanks to the Software search provider. /$0.02 Michael [1] https://dkripak.wordpress.com/2016/09/04/ux-test-results-part-ii/ -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
