I support the proposal to drop Evolution and leave it at that. Not just webmail, but dare I say Gmail is more expected than the client. > A shame the usability test was not performed with Fedora 24. They are not that different. The whole user experience did not turn around in 24. Misha https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Misha English / Español / Italiano / Русский On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 11:10 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> I guess Evolution might be controversial; I use it religiously, and >> many of you probably do too. But the user interface is complex and >> confusing; users should not be exposed to this by default, barring >> drastic UI changes that are outside the scope of the Evolution >> project. >> Evolution is a great mail client for power users, but I'm confident >> that the average user will be better off with webmail services; folks >> who want a desktop client can simply install one, after all. We >> intend >> to replace it with GNOME Mail eventually, but nobody has started >> developing it yet. I propose we drop Evolution, but I have not done >> so >> yet, pending further discussion. > > One of our interns performed a usability test on Evolution. The results > are at [1] and are highly negative. It seems the users had difficulty > configuring Evolution to use their mail accounts; in particular, Gmail > always rejects your password without any error message unless you > configure Gmail to allow access to "less secure apps." Users found the > interface to be outdated. All of the users indicated that, outside of > the usability test, they exclusively use webmail. > > Upstream, we emphasize the recommendation to not install Evolution by > default by including it in the extra apps moduleset, rather than the > core moduleset. I really no longer see the value in diverging from > upstream here. Users who want it can easily find it. We might move > Geary into core in the future, now that it's actively maintained again, > if it improves to the point that it provides a really compelling user > experience, but the Evolution developers have been clear that they > don't want any UI changes. We should drop it (without replacement) for > F26. I don't agree that mail clients are expected functionality for new > computers in the age of webmail. And anyone typing Evolution in the > overview will still find it, thanks to the Software search provider. > > /$0.02 > > Michael > > [1] https://dkripak.wordpress.com/2016/09/04/ux-test-results-part-ii/ > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
