On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Matthew Miller > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 05:51:02PM +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: >>> conversation with Kamil Paral today: >>> Wayland has not been proposed as a change for Fedora 25 and no one >>> outside the workstation group knows it's still a plan unless they >>> follow our mailing list closely. >>> Fedora QA doesn't test Wayland, Wayland test cases are not part of test >>> matrices and so forth. >>> Now for the rest of the Fedora Project we're going with X11 for F25 and >>> Wayland is still just the experimental thingy. To make it default it >>> needs to go through thorough testing by the QA team and it needs to be >>> part of test matrices. >> >> We really _do_ need to go through the proper process here. Please >> remember, Fedora is a huge project with hundreds of active >> contributors, and this isn't just mere bureaucracy. We require the >> coordination in order to continue to produce the reoccuring miracle >> that is a functioning Fedora release. >> >> I'm excited as anyone for the new features and improvements Wayland >> brings to the table, but let's do it right. > > If someone wants to file a FESCo ticket to get it approved as a late > change, I think that's reasonable. But tomorrow is go/no-go and I > think it's at least as risky to flip back to Xorg by default as it is > to leave Wayland the default; and no doubt FESCo would take QA's > opinion on the late change into account but this lateness I think is > pretty minor compared to some of the late changes that have happened > in the past. Since it's no go, there's a good chance filing a ticket sometime today means it gets reviewed by FESCo at this Friday's meeting. Ideally the WG would not have deferred the Wayland question to next week's WG meeting. But a FESCo ticket could at least resolve whether the change would be accepted should the WG decide next week to proceed with Wayland by default; or if it's simply too late now and must be postponed to Fedora 26. I'm with sgallagh on this, rip off the bandaid. But that's not one of the official process options. -- Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
