On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Adam Williamson > <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 05:27 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2015-August/001661.html >>> > > >>> > > Stephen Gallagher has proposed a Change for Server to drop i686 media >>> > > for F24. Given our previous list discussion, this is something for >>> > > which we should probably follow suit. Thoughts? >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ >>> > >>> > I wonder if this discussion (archive here [1]) had any conclusion? I just noticed that the Server SIG's proposal is in the F24 ChangeSet [2], but it is not the case for Workstation. If you plan to drop i686 medium, there are 12 more days until the proposal submission deadline [3]. >>> >>> FESCo voted that no i686 media will block the release from F24 and >>> forward, so it doesn't make much sense to generate it. >> >> Well, whenever I've seen it discussed, there's been an understanding >> that there's a difference there; we do ship a lot of non-release- >> blocking media, after all. The idea was that declaring that i686 media >> are not blocking is less drastic than out-and-out dropping them, and >> gives WGs / SIGs the power to choose whether they want to keep shipping >> the images or not. So I'd say you still have a choice to make here: do >> you want to keep producing non-blocking 32-bit Workstation media in a >> sort of 'here they are if you REALLY want them' way, or just stop >> producing them entirely? > > If they are made, is QA going to commit to testing them as they have > in the past even if none of the issues found are going to block the > release? If so, then we have a discussion to have. If not, then I > really don't see the point in shipping untested media. If it's non-blocking, QA may only incidentally tests them. Xfce spin is non-blocking. And while there is a test case for it, that doesn't mean QA makes sure that someone runs that test case. There's a pile of media and images that Fedora is shipping these days and I'd be surprised if QA is testing all of them. -- Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
