Honestly I think we missed one, if not the most important reason why Chrome is so popular: one of the most visited on the internet used to say "Try Chrome". This is of course www.google.com. Also https://translate.google.com/ says at the top "Built-in translation for web Get Google Chrome". Being backed by a multi billion company with one of the most visited website on the entire internet, producing the most common platform for phones (where Chrome is usually installed by default and not even removable) helps. That's also one of the reason: it's on phones by default, so why not installing it on the PC too? If history teach us something, I think, is that technical merits of a software are not really related to it's market share. So looking into technical merits of Chrome over Firefox and vice versa is only good to decide which one Fedora will ship (well I hope), but not to find the reason why one is more popular than the other (as the first question of this thread asks). On 11 January 2016 at 21:37, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 01/11/2016 02:13 PM, Nikos Roussos wrote: >>> >>> >>> On January 11, 2016 8:28:43 PM GMT+02:00, Josh Boyer >>> <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Nikos Roussos >>>> <comzeradd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> A few reasons, in my own personally believed order of >>>>>> popularity for Chrome: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Media "just works". Netflix, amazon video/music, >>>>>> spotify, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Netflix "just works" on Firefox too (due to EME support). >>>>> Spotify is >>>> flash. If you install flash-plugin it works on Firefox too. >>>> >>>> Having to install flash is a terrible thing these days. Also, >>>> Firefox as shipped in Fedora out-of-the-box doesn't work for >>>> this because Fedora out-of-the-box doesn't have the codecs. >>>> Chrome bundles them, so end users that don't care get them and >>>> "it works". >>> >>> True, but are you sure most users want this? My feeling is that >>> Flash media is something most users try to avoid. >>> >> >> You give users too much credit. Users only care if the thing they are >> trying to do actually happens. Whether or not it happens via flash is >> so far down the list it might as well be ignored, until the inevitable >> security issue. > > > Normally I'd agree, but Flash is special. > > If it ever consciously held a special place in one's heart, it's now > migrated elsewhere. Part of the colonic I give to Chrome, is disabling > its built-in Flash. Last year both Chrome and Firefox temporarily > disabled Flash remotely due to severe vulnerabilities, and many users > were made very aware of what Flash provides, because for a while it > wasn't being provided. > > -- > Chris Murphy > -- > desktop mailing list > desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx