On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 19:03 +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > ... is it possible to not remove the chat support from GOA, but just > make it invisible unless Empathy is installed? It should be possible; it would just require changes in gnome-online- accounts. But it seems undesirable to me. If Empathy gets downgraded to be a normal application, rather than a core component of our OS like it is now, then we should not offer configuration for it in System Settings. Application configuration should be the province of applications. > If it is completely removed, what happens for upgrades? Do I lose the > chat accounts I configured in GOA in F23 if I upgrade to F24? Yes; you'd have to add all the accounts again in Empathy's account preferences. I think this is an acceptable one-time cost. > GNOME Photos is great, however, it doesn't handle opening a file (e.g > by double-clicking in Nautilus) > > So if we remove Shotwell, what will handle this functionality? By default, this is handled by Image Viewer (eog), not Shotwell. I think you changed this setting. :) There was discussion at the Content Apps Hackfest about whether to teach Photos to open arbitrary images, and corresponding discussion for Documents and Music, with the goal being to allow us to remove Image Viewer and Document Viewer (evince) from the default install. I'm not sure what the conclusion of these discussions was. I suspect someone will respond to enlighten us. :) > GNOME Music is also great, but the same caveat as Photos applies: > what > will handle the functionality of double-clicking on a music/audio > file > in Nautilus? This one is more problematic. Currently the answer is Videos (totem), since it is not possible for Music to open individual files. That is frankly pretty weird, not a very satisfying answer, since Videos is hardly intended for playing music files. It actually has one major advantage over Rhythmbox, though: Rhythmbox adds all opened files to my music library, which is *never* what I want. I wind up with many deleted, temporary sound files in my Rhythmbox music collection. If I want to add a file to my library, I'll move it into my Music folder. So I actually prefer Videos as the default handler anyway... even though that's far from ideal. It seems reasonable to hold off on Music and Photos until they are able to handle local files, though I personally don't think that's essential. Michael -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx