On Sat, 2016-01-02 at 15:27 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi, > > Hope you had a good holiday season. > > I propose again some changes to the default apps for F24: > > * Empathy - remove without replacement. I use it myself, but I think > I'm a minority -- we don't need to have a chat app installed by > default anymore, since not many people are using the chat protocols > supported by Empathy nowadays. A prominent exception is IRC, but > that's only popular for Fedora/FLOSS developers, not for software > developers in general. Empathy's UI is also looking quite dated. I'm part of the same minority as you are, but I also don't mind having to install Empathy if it's not installed by default. However,... > As part of this, we would remove chat integration from the Online > Accounts panel in system settings. (This is easy; I've already done > it for an unrelated project.) ... is it possible to not remove the chat support from GOA, but just make it invisible unless Empathy is installed? If it is completely removed, what happens for upgrades? Do I lose the chat accounts I configured in GOA in F23 if I upgrade to F24? > * Shotwell -> GNOME Photos. Photos works well for me, and Shotwell is > unmaintained upstream for almost a year now. I'm going to package a > git snapshot for us to get in some security fixes, since I don't > expect an upstream release anytime soon. If you want Shotwell for > more advanced features, you can still install it. GNOME Photos is great, however, it doesn't handle opening a file (e.g by double-clicking in Nautilus) So if we remove Shotwell, what will handle this functionality? > * Rhythmbox -> GNOME Music. I'm using it every day. It works great > and doesn't look like a database frontend. If you want Rhythmbox you > can still install it. There are a couple rough edges left, but it's > much nicer than Rhythmbox overall. One blocker, though: this would > need to be conditional on getting GNOME#747953 (information leak via > plain text HTTP connection) fixed first. GNOME Music is also great, but the same caveat as Photos applies: what will handle the functionality of double-clicking on a music/audio file in Nautilus? -- Mathieu -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx