On Sun, 2016-01-03 at 04:54 -0500, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > I completely agree. Empathy has several design issues in GNOME 3, > mainly it's a multi-window app which is quite difficult to use in > GNOME 3. Moreover it's not actively developed any more and doesn't > keep up with new popular services (Telegram, Whatsapp,...) unlike the > good old Pidgin. I think last time I proposed removal of Empathy we > agreed on that, but the problem was that some parts of GNOME > (Contacts) depended on it. I wonder if there has been any progress in > this. We can't keep Empathy in this state forever. Contacts does not really depend on Empathy; at least, there is no Requires in the Fedora package. It does use D-Bus for launching Empathy chats or calls. But this functionality already does not work if Empathy is simply *offline*. It's a bug that should be fixed, but removing Empathy is not going to make this any worse. > I also agree. And if GNOME Photos is not mature enough, we could use > gthumb. It would still serve us better as the default app than > Shotwell. Agreed, gthumb is much better than Shotwell. > I prefer Rhythmbox because it supports Internet radios, dunno whether > it's an important use case for us. Otherwise I don't have a problem > with Music being the default app. My $0.02: Music is much nicer if you're listening to local files, and Fedora doesn't support that many Internet radio stations, since we can't handle MP3. (If you can figure out how to get third-party MP3 support, you can also figure out how to install Rhythmbox). I'm not sure if Internet radio support is planned for Music; I suspect not, since it's focused on viewing local files. Michael -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx