Hi, Hope you had a good holiday season. I propose again some changes to the default apps for F24: * Empathy - remove without replacement. I use it myself, but I think I'm a minority -- we don't need to have a chat app installed by default anymore, since not many people are using the chat protocols supported by Empathy nowadays. A prominent exception is IRC, but that's only popular for Fedora/FLOSS developers, not for software developers in general. Empathy's UI is also looking quite dated. As part of this, we would remove chat integration from the Online Accounts panel in system settings. (This is easy; I've already done it for an unrelated project.) If you want Empathy you can still install it. * Shotwell -> GNOME Photos. Photos works well for me, and Shotwell is unmaintained upstream for almost a year now. I'm going to package a git snapshot for us to get in some security fixes, since I don't expect an upstream release anytime soon. If you want Shotwell for more advanced features, you can still install it. * Rhythmbox -> GNOME Music. I'm using it every day. It works great and doesn't look like a database frontend. If you want Rhythmbox you can still install it. There are a couple rough edges left, but it's much nicer than Rhythmbox overall. One blocker, though: this would need to be conditional on getting GNOME#747953 (information leak via plain text HTTP connection) fixed first. Michael -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx