----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Catanzaro" <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2016 10:27:38 PM > Subject: Proposed default app changes for F24 > > Hi, > > Hope you had a good holiday season. > > I propose again some changes to the default apps for F24: > > * Empathy - remove without replacement. I use it myself, but I think > I'm a minority -- we don't need to have a chat app installed by default > anymore, since not many people are using the chat protocols supported > by Empathy nowadays. A prominent exception is IRC, but that's only > popular for Fedora/FLOSS developers, not for software developers in > general. Empathy's UI is also looking quite dated. As part of this, we > would remove chat integration from the Online Accounts panel in system > settings. (This is easy; I've already done it for an unrelated > project.) If you want Empathy you can still install it. I completely agree. Empathy has several design issues in GNOME 3, mainly it's a multi-window app which is quite difficult to use in GNOME 3. Moreover it's not actively developed any more and doesn't keep up with new popular services (Telegram, Whatsapp,...) unlike the good old Pidgin. I think last time I proposed removal of Empathy we agreed on that, but the problem was that some parts of GNOME (Contacts) depended on it. I wonder if there has been any progress in this. We can't keep Empathy in this state forever. > * Shotwell -> GNOME Photos. Photos works well for me, and Shotwell is > unmaintained upstream for almost a year now. I'm going to package a git > snapshot for us to get in some security fixes, since I don't expect an > upstream release anytime soon. If you want Shotwell for more advanced > features, you can still install it. I also agree. And if GNOME Photos is not mature enough, we could use gthumb. It would still serve us better as the default app than Shotwell. > * Rhythmbox -> GNOME Music. I'm using it every day. It works great and > doesn't look like a database frontend. If you want Rhythmbox you can > still install it. There are a couple rough edges left, but it's much > nicer than Rhythmbox overall. One blocker, though: this would need to > be conditional on getting GNOME#747953 (information leak via plain text > HTTP connection) fixed first. I prefer Rhythmbox because it supports Internet radios, dunno whether it's an important use case for us. Otherwise I don't have a problem with Music being the default app. Jiri -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
