-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi Unfortunately, gnome control center 3.16.2 did not fix the duplicate controlls issue. Orca still sees two dim screen brightness controlls, two blank screen controlls, etc. I'll file a bug Thanks Kendell clark Sent from Sonar GNU/Linux kendell clark wrote: > hi There's a new gnome control center? Great. I don't think I have > it yet, I'm still on 3.16.1 here, so I'll wait for an update and > write back in with results. Thanks Kendell clark Sent from Fedora > GNU/Linux > > > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 >>> >>> hi No problem. I can file a bug. Which component? maybe ... >>> gnome shell, core component? > >> gnome-shell. > >>> I don't mind filing bugs. My main reason for the ... I don't >>> know if it was a rant, was that I'm the *only*, or it feels >>> that way anyway, person filing these bugs. > >> You're certainly an early adopter amongst our orca users. > >>> This isn't really gnome's fault, but accessibility is very >>> fragile. It breaks easily, and the reason why can be very >>> tricky. > >> Yes, certainly. Which is one of the reasons why we made a11y >> switchable at run-time. In the olden days, you had to log out >> and log in again when enabling an a11y feature. > >> Which is why testing is invaluable. > >>> On a positive note, I've been doing a lot of testing with >>> gnome on wayland, and it's just as accessible as x11. > >> Yay :) > >>> The desktop isn't drawn, but that's a known bug already. What >>> about the duplicate controlls? > >> That's usually missing metadata on the widgets, and easily >> fixable through a couple of GtkBuilder lines. > >>> I have no idea what's causing that. It happens primarily in >>> gnome's control center, in almost every module, > >> Aren't most of those fixed? Rui released a new 3.16 >> gnome-control-center yesterday, and we're backporting those >> fixes for GNOME 3.14 and Fedora 21 as well. > >>> but also in gnome tweak tool. I don't think there are actually >>> duplicate controlls, just that orca is reading duplicates, for >>> some very odd reason. Can you point me to some a11y >>> guidelines? It looks like I'll have to start nagging extension >>> authors to read them. > >> This is the main entry point: >> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-how- i > >> t-works.html.en > >> The guidelines are here: >> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-codi n > >> g-guidelines.html.en > >> Creating accessible custom widgets: >> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-cust o > >> m.html.en > >> and examples: >> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-api- e > >> xamples.html.en > >> HTH > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVU8L2AAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTdAIQP/RtjZ/tuzdc+uAduslwZu1ik dHOXJsRjVI3yQ2Hs37gLwkPDEpqz6z5EBxXBT+B4HA1Tcq5Wb50vsYS83JNvOHMA CC/qdSOFs+4/bBIJrW23HdIzPRPcriR6ecX/BbnBB6X9j04zn1F7a4wkKsKmYUX9 Kc3rKbs3FoT0Vze+A/AsE3PyVUndhcRXCJ0jJX3lPj3EMmJyYv9DhoXFle+yUC4y A54RBAPOaqaE116de6tJsSArxNtzJhQocNRsm34Iyu9EItxcB5nENn0vjIZGFONC nOAJNX2p/PgGmgm9TG8G9fksUatd1Bd0Edkvhyxw4mZiesCbrBCxUIpvG5qvxk/+ jKVaTtmEy/t+qBd8c83WfAkxo/LjWndWSn66wPeD3Yd0HAfxDpF+jmPkYUKZ2/Pn 3V0ghgYSD16FuR3cC7g8fO8v9wFq1fW3LU383SMHd0+UtrIt4k3WlzX3UaXCNd3b nBU6+yVzjjSKH6joP7FsSj6KYe7FM7c8/oAbu8dV7xARSyYfpJkIy7tbpssPGiBt 9L78KymQUVfxFwqeuUA/e8b96cp3uG/rUvRggw7eHm3/pBIKD6CPjisvCPr7t8sw mRtIudF2yENYoXI/kdIJZJbqIobbWe6io3BiCQX3aUhCyFbW+8uAuc04F3Fx4t/j FzvsKelzeZ/+fvFgnBLe =KE1U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
