-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi There's a new gnome control center? Great. I don't think I have it yet, I'm still on 3.16.1 here, so I'll wait for an update and write back in with results. Thanks Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 >> >> hi No problem. I can file a bug. Which component? maybe ... gnome >> shell, core component? > > gnome-shell. > >> I don't mind filing bugs. My main reason for the ... I don't know >> if it was a rant, was that I'm the *only*, or it feels that way >> anyway, person filing these bugs. > > You're certainly an early adopter amongst our orca users. > >> This isn't really gnome's fault, but accessibility is very >> fragile. It breaks easily, and the reason why can be very >> tricky. > > Yes, certainly. Which is one of the reasons why we made a11y > switchable at run-time. In the olden days, you had to log out and > log in again when enabling an a11y feature. > > Which is why testing is invaluable. > >> On a positive note, I've been doing a lot of testing with gnome >> on wayland, and it's just as accessible as x11. > > Yay :) > >> The desktop isn't drawn, but that's a known bug already. What >> about the duplicate controlls? > > That's usually missing metadata on the widgets, and easily fixable > through a couple of GtkBuilder lines. > >> I have no idea what's causing that. It happens primarily in >> gnome's control center, in almost every module, > > Aren't most of those fixed? Rui released a new 3.16 > gnome-control-center yesterday, and we're backporting those fixes > for GNOME 3.14 and Fedora 21 as well. > >> but also in gnome tweak tool. I don't think there are actually >> duplicate controlls, just that orca is reading duplicates, for >> some very odd reason. Can you point me to some a11y guidelines? >> It looks like I'll have to start nagging extension authors to >> read them. > > This is the main entry point: > https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-how-i t-works.html.en > > The guidelines are here: > https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-codin g-guidelines.html.en > > Creating accessible custom widgets: > https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-custo m.html.en > > and examples: > https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-api-e xamples.html.en > > HTH > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVUyr5AAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTdGe0P/RVKgibuHBWt0gNK2fSdTctQ WtXjXjQeHr1RzrgqJ/xHS4ytt9lBSN1Tgr2FXMEuUMWjEtd+g86RBo35or+sP4oz C4wB1qHkRtD41Y/5N+oz8yh50ZWDa056kxRqxUlShKnMDEXtbIMZf3lS0enTc7N5 ei4WyZmUGKvzMFDgiqBa72/6YLBxvscpgEV2hQPapcZALRQ7UuUKhTsLEvzDEfaa Jdhv3rqbljY0l/Myu4WiCJ5jaRPYkrI/vgUi9wALOFQdq68k2PPTpLwHSTurep0c A+mlM+uBJizAxo5pKFytdaRi4rt1VhI3lmKpdFOvKVsWaW/+skVfEsOKsKFhP68L nF6jdAycFRE1VyxpQid0MHGCm2l7ghk7+uzTwaczcPpvAPxN5IadvotaS1ijFRwK F7VBMkKDTMT8mG/aiL1oKweyRgp8kOjSITzI4jRijzazrUrSYSJY42Una4DVvhB2 U2VJTjpx/0fxgsUlKHDzaUIz+171codg9GG6Ue+0ki5Fu36VmPJD78xZXrV1FOYy PMD1so7+okJfYug3NEwBDo70XYHplkeOcVZklLdByvMEaKGI/ZQU16mQwI/LHdOh eB+r8hlLe/rFgK9feBtSmX0FxwGn5FE6QFVX3qDgNoZR5MBlYzPQK83T4oJsEJnu wzKHlkqUsrFcyphBA1eJ =SA65 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop