----- Original Message ----- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > hi > No problem. I can file a bug. Which component? maybe ... gnome shell, > core component? gnome-shell. > I don't mind filing bugs. My main reason for the ... I > don't know if it was a rant, was that I'm the *only*, or it feels that > way anyway, person filing these bugs. You're certainly an early adopter amongst our orca users. > This isn't really gnome's fault, > but accessibility is very fragile. It breaks easily, and the reason > why can be very tricky. Yes, certainly. Which is one of the reasons why we made a11y switchable at run-time. In the olden days, you had to log out and log in again when enabling an a11y feature. Which is why testing is invaluable. > On a positive note, I've been doing a lot of > testing with gnome on wayland, and it's just as accessible as x11. Yay :) > The > desktop isn't drawn, but that's a known bug already. What about the > duplicate controlls? That's usually missing metadata on the widgets, and easily fixable through a couple of GtkBuilder lines. > I have no idea what's causing that. It happens > primarily in gnome's control center, in almost every module, Aren't most of those fixed? Rui released a new 3.16 gnome-control-center yesterday, and we're backporting those fixes for GNOME 3.14 and Fedora 21 as well. > but also > in gnome tweak tool. I don't think there are actually duplicate > controlls, just that orca is reading duplicates, for some very odd > reason. Can you point me to some a11y guidelines? It looks like I'll > have to start nagging extension authors to read them. This is the main entry point: https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-how-it-works.html.en The guidelines are here: https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-coding-guidelines.html.en Creating accessible custom widgets: https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-custom.html.en and examples: https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-api-examples.html.en HTH -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop