-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi What sort of message do you suppose that would send to the open source community if redhat paid up? That would have all kinds of consequences, and I'm not averse to installing rpm fusion repo packages in order to get them. If windows/mac users are staying away from linux based on having to install special repositories for codecs, especially since it's very simple to find out that's what needs doing, then they obviously don't want to use linux that badly anyway. They have to go through quite a bit more than that to get codecs for non patent encumbered formats in windows. I know windows supports mp3 natively, and mp4, but only some containers. Windows provides zero support when it comes to installing codecs. Just an error dialog. Not that linux is perfect in this area but it's trying, and that has to count for something. I know I'm being stubborn, but to be completely honest, catering to the "average" user starts to get rather old and unappealing after a while, and beyond a certain point ... Thanks Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux drago01 wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:37 AM, kendell clark > <coffeekingms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 >> >> hi I agree with this but at the same time I disagree. I >> completely agree that installing codecs should be easier. On the >> other hand, I'm sympothetic to fedora's awkward position. If they >> made installing these codecs easier or installed them by default, >> even though the software to play them is open source, they could >> find themselves on the bad end of an riaa or mpaa lawsuit. > > Nope. Neither of those entities own codec patents. And no its not > "impossible" to ship those codes in a legal way. If fedora/red hat > would buy patent licenses they can legally distribute those codes > *but* those licenses would not apply to remixes so anyone else > basing his/her distro on fedora would have to either remove them or > get a patent license. MP3 will expire soon anyway. So we'd only > need AAC/H264 to be able to handle most videos out there. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVTG4yAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTdDDAP/isMhNvePInDO9N6CIvSjjEY VUCYIer9x7/cNr4QXRUwE4V1E8O2swXrY0hk1Sa0QHtLp2t7Dq6Teu5pF0igOupe IcsQewRNHYFN7kS/uHDDhYFt5z5W+4MvmVC2Qr01tteCVc2pdkLcco8rliitZ1QL juvPK2vF4XHlwmrLK2wWVZVroV99Y8jj4YgwmCS08NM0AzGy6oZh6hkf5B5piYnq ObRKo725dNOAqP7FdNwSlHhtAh2lDEgYj38vgwrctUioagGNiv1BFwGI2iDrp0WL 1FFt4C3g+rZcWKFBsUWuqri+uaFFe6F/wipLkuCeaeITn93eoGtMDvHdZJEPQaTK xwMrW4Y+3kRBOqjMoI1gVoBI152FFGPMJCIqt6CIc76RoKqplLxksDb60sYpxr5Q OIEsLoBMPikJVtgldNRsnYWq9zs/B5vEmAod4PHrHOaEQ0YDoxQPo1R0dtG24sHm ejdd/sTFyA9eZAtpOisEcpkqckWFc3vic5Ul54niOzPdJEwyeYZanWmdrkHSkcMq 6OdOqZ+4tEPRrS68cBDy4/OPUrv6hOic2BChfRrgyWz5jIeLiw4um4fQZc2nlCXg 21cUIpxfpF7o1XpDexfqODukd+p8BRj9Gr92crYNC6DSweCzVE/ZU1kq2gcLuaT6 5lS1RWEEFQDDIHLJnMgA =ZJw1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop