On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:44 AM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Michael Catanzaro >> <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> I would personally strongly recommend to keep the firewall >>>> configuration >>>> utility in Fedora Workstation to allow server application developers >>>> and >>>> also others to have an easy way to configure their firewall settings >>>> according to their needs. >>> >>> I don't think firewall-config is even remotely close to an easy way to >>> configure firewall settings. It's obviously a tool intended for advanced >>> users only, which is why we suggest removing it -- we're trying really >>> hard to get rid of anything that requires technical expertise to use. >>> But it's possible that we may want to make an exception for >>> firewall-config. >>> >>> I'm not sure how to make firewall configuration easy, and I suspect it >>> may not be possible, but you'd have to start with removing all mention >>> of ports ("my computer only has six ports!") and services ("why is http >>> not checked, that must by why my Internet is broken") ("AMANDA! What is >>> this amanda-client you're running on my network!"). I guess an easy >>> firewall configuration tool would be a list of applications with an on >>> or off switch to configure whether that application should be allowed to >>> access the network. That's the sort of firewall configuration I would be >>> more enthusiastic to install by default, but that would not be useful at >>> all for developers. >> >> Slightly orthogonal, but the original discussion wasn't about specific >> ports/apps but more about what to do when a user switches from one >> network to another. firewalld-config has the concept of zones for >> this, but the UI isn't immediately clear. I thought someone was >> looking at making changes in GNOME and/or NetworkManager to prompt for >> a "security level" etc. What happened to that work? > > https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/Features/SharingNetworkAwareness Thanks, that is the feature/bug I was remembering. So it's in 3.14 already under the Sharing settings. What is unclear to me is if a dialog pops up when a network change is detected, or if there is no dialog does it default to off for a new network? (Apologies, I don't have a separate network to test at the moment). josh -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop