On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Michael Catanzaro > <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> I would personally strongly recommend to keep the firewall >>> configuration >>> utility in Fedora Workstation to allow server application developers >>> and >>> also others to have an easy way to configure their firewall settings >>> according to their needs. >> >> I don't think firewall-config is even remotely close to an easy way to >> configure firewall settings. It's obviously a tool intended for advanced >> users only, which is why we suggest removing it -- we're trying really >> hard to get rid of anything that requires technical expertise to use. >> But it's possible that we may want to make an exception for >> firewall-config. >> >> I'm not sure how to make firewall configuration easy, and I suspect it >> may not be possible, but you'd have to start with removing all mention >> of ports ("my computer only has six ports!") and services ("why is http >> not checked, that must by why my Internet is broken") ("AMANDA! What is >> this amanda-client you're running on my network!"). I guess an easy >> firewall configuration tool would be a list of applications with an on >> or off switch to configure whether that application should be allowed to >> access the network. That's the sort of firewall configuration I would be >> more enthusiastic to install by default, but that would not be useful at >> all for developers. > > Slightly orthogonal, but the original discussion wasn't about specific > ports/apps but more about what to do when a user switches from one > network to another. firewalld-config has the concept of zones for > this, but the UI isn't immediately clear. I thought someone was > looking at making changes in GNOME and/or NetworkManager to prompt for > a "security level" etc. What happened to that work? https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointThirteen/Features/SharingNetworkAwareness -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop