On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I would personally strongly recommend to keep the firewall >> configuration >> utility in Fedora Workstation to allow server application developers >> and >> also others to have an easy way to configure their firewall settings >> according to their needs. > > I don't think firewall-config is even remotely close to an easy way to > configure firewall settings. It's obviously a tool intended for advanced > users only, which is why we suggest removing it -- we're trying really > hard to get rid of anything that requires technical expertise to use. > But it's possible that we may want to make an exception for > firewall-config. > > I'm not sure how to make firewall configuration easy, and I suspect it > may not be possible, but you'd have to start with removing all mention > of ports ("my computer only has six ports!") and services ("why is http > not checked, that must by why my Internet is broken") ("AMANDA! What is > this amanda-client you're running on my network!"). I guess an easy > firewall configuration tool would be a list of applications with an on > or off switch to configure whether that application should be allowed to > access the network. That's the sort of firewall configuration I would be > more enthusiastic to install by default, but that would not be useful at > all for developers. Slightly orthogonal, but the original discussion wasn't about specific ports/apps but more about what to do when a user switches from one network to another. firewalld-config has the concept of zones for this, but the UI isn't immediately clear. I thought someone was looking at making changes in GNOME and/or NetworkManager to prompt for a "security level" etc. What happened to that work? josh -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop