On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Allan Day <allanpday@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > ... >>> But the client-side of abrt is so prone to quality of implementation >>> issues that I might agree that it would be best to remove it and start >>> over. ... > > I agree that we need to address these user experience issues as a > matter of urgency. We also need to drive up quality in Fedora of > course, and that requires high-quality data on crashers. We need a > plan to ensure that we get this. > > The first step is to identify our requirements, as well as any > verifiable issues that currently exist. (I know that Jon McCann did a > lot of work in this area, so we're not starting from a blank slate.) > Once we have that, we can have a conversation with the ABRT team. > Disabling or not including ARBT in F21 *might* make sense, but that > decision really needs to be made as part of a wider strategy, and it > needs to be a decision that the ABRT team themselves participate in. > > Discussions about dropping something from a release on the basis of > anecdotal evidence isn't especially helpful. Likewise, having that > discussion without the involvement of the concerned parties isn't a > healthy way to do business, and could well sour the relations that we > need to develop in order to produce the kind of product that we want. Yes! Very well put. Thanks. josh -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
