On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 16:09 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Kalev Lember <kalevlember@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 06/04/2014 01:52 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> I disagree. We aren't targeting people that find virtualization to be > >> a confusing concept. Workstation is targeting developers and students > >> with a reasonable degree of technical competence. I believe working > >> virt out of the box should be installed. > > > > No, sorry, you might have misunderstood the PRD. We aren't producing a > > distro only for developers. We are still producing a general purpose OS > > but we are focusing our own development effort more on making it easier > > to use Workstation for development. > > There's nothing in what I said that precludes a general purpose OS. > On the contrary, it's required for anything above and beyond that. > > > We had this discussion already when approving the PRD. There were > > concerns that people might misunderstand the wording there to mean that > > we are no longer supporting the general desktop user. No; the PRD only > > enumerates areas we'll give special focus during development and is not > > meant to say that those are the only supported use cases. > > And this is where you and I differ. I consider virtualization an > important enough thing for the areas we're giving special focus to be > installed by default. You, apparently, do not. That's a difference > of opinion between you and I, not a fundamental misunderstanding of > the overall goal on my part. > > If you would like, we could certainly put this to a vote in the WG. I > may very well be alone in my desire for virt to work out of the box. > If we could actually get the WG to vote on it, I'll be happy to shut > up either way. I'm interested in making progress, not endless > debates. > > > It is still a general purpose desktop distro. > > Again, nothing I've said would imply general functionality doesn't work. > > > Quoting from the Workstation PRD: > > > > "We want to create a stable, integrated, polished and user friendly > > system that can appeal to a wide general audience. /.../ This PRD is > > not meant to be an exhaustive list of what potential users can or > > will use the Fedora Workstation for, but rather outline the > > Workstation working groups development priorities and overall goals." > > > > ... and goes on to explain that one of those development priorities is > > to be attractive to developers. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Workstation_PRD > > You don't need to point me to the wiki page I created. > > josh Gee, you people are polite. I've just migrated from the Lizard, and what goes on there.......i ditched the OS Cheers, Mark -- This message was created in a Microsoft-free computing environment.
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