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Matthias Clasen wrote:
fcoe-utils
> lldpad

These seem more aimed at the Server product. Sure, anaconda pulls these in for installation support, but do you expect the WS product to be installed on such a crazy network? Could anaconda make these optional?

NetworkManager-pptp
NetworkManager-pptp-gnome
ppp
pptp

Do networks that use PPTP still exist? I hope not. We shouldn't encourage unsecure connection types.

> iscsi-initiator-utils
> iscsi-initiator-utils-iscsiuio
radvd

I see libvirt (and anaconda for iSCSI) requires these and it's unfortunate. All you're missing is dhcpd/bind and the WS product is basically the Server product.

Is virtualization important to have in the base product package list? Not every developer uses the same virt software. Virt software is more of an "add-on" in that the WS product's goal of being a foundation for building Fedora/Linux applications isn't met by including libvirt by default. Yes, it's nice to test applications and yes, I use visualization myself (not libvirt), but my concern still stands. Perhaps this could be handled by the developer assistant.

Would it be appropriate to include "devhelp" in the package list? We're not shipping GTK/Qt docs, but should we?

Out of the box the WS product cannot produce an application. RPMs cannot be built (rpm-build, mock?). There is no C compiler. What about "-devel" packages? (too heavy for download, USB, DVD?) Is this what the "Developer assistant" application will deal with?

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