On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Kalev Lember <kalevlember@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 04/29/2014 03:08 PM, Christian Schaller wrote: >>> 5) Installation and compose methods work with rel-eng (live image >>> default, but install tree necessary for compose. PXE/netboot iso? >>> etc) >> Anyone who can take this on? Maybe Kalev? > > Sure, happy to take this on. > > >>> I'm sure I'm missing a few things here. Please chime in with what I'm >>> forgetting. In short, there's more than enough work to go around. >>> >>> Lastly, we've been rather quiet as a WG as of late. The Cloud WG is >>> going through a confirmation process with their members to make sure >>> people are still interested and willing to do work. That's not a bad >>> idea for ourselves. WG members, please take the time to reply with >>> whether or not you wish to remain a WG member. >> I do, and I do think that we need to find a better way to function as a >> working group. I take part of the blame here for not pushing more on >> this myself. Maybe we should try to structure our work like FeSCO? Since >> the plan is for the working groups to replace many of the functions of >> FeSCO then this would maybe be a good model? > > I am interested in continuing as well. > > Regarding the perceived quietness, I can think of two things: > > One is that the #fedora-workstation irc channel isn't working very well > since everybody is using the #fedora-desktop channel instead for > everyday communication. Might make sense to officially ditch > #fedora-workstation? We could. I have no attachment to it personally, but the existing #fedora-desktop has it's own historical user set and it's on a different IRC server from the rest of the Fedora channels. > Another thing that makes it seem quiet is that we don't have regular > weekly meetings. Other teams are doing those and it seems to be a good > way to show the world what is going on in the WG -- with meeting status > reports and all that stuff. Right. Christian suggested using more of a FESCo model, which would mean regular meetings (perhaps every-other week?) and possibly a trac instance to track work items. Originally we avoided this overhead because the intention was to "Get stuff done", but in hindsight that's lead to a lack of transparency and accountability. Unless there are major objections or helpful other suggestions, I'll work with the Fedora infrastructure team to get a trac instance setup and we can work out meetings shortly. (I hate trac, but there's no better solution that I'm aware of.) josh -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop