Re: Workstation status and TODOs

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On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Kalev Lember <kalevlember@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 04/29/2014 03:08 PM, Christian Schaller wrote:
>>> 5) Installation and compose methods work with rel-eng  (live image
>>> default, but install tree necessary for compose.  PXE/netboot iso?
>>> etc)
>> Anyone who can take this on? Maybe Kalev?
>
> Sure, happy to take this on.
>
>
>>> I'm sure I'm missing a few things here.  Please chime in with what I'm
>>> forgetting.  In short, there's more than enough work to go around.
>>>
>>> Lastly, we've been rather quiet as a WG as of late.  The Cloud WG is
>>> going through a confirmation process with their members to make sure
>>> people are still interested and willing to do work.  That's not a bad
>>> idea for ourselves.  WG members, please take the time to reply with
>>> whether or not you wish to remain a WG member.
>> I do, and I do think that we need to find a better way to function as a
>> working group. I take part of the blame here for not pushing more on
>> this myself. Maybe we should try to structure our work like FeSCO? Since
>> the plan is for the working groups to replace many of the functions of
>> FeSCO then this would maybe be a good model?
>
> I am interested in continuing as well.
>
> Regarding the perceived quietness, I can think of two things:
>
> One is that the #fedora-workstation irc channel isn't working very well
> since everybody is using the #fedora-desktop channel instead for
> everyday communication. Might make sense to officially ditch
> #fedora-workstation?

We could.  I have no attachment to it personally, but the existing
#fedora-desktop has it's own historical user set and it's on a
different IRC server from the rest of the Fedora channels.

> Another thing that makes it seem quiet is that we don't have regular
> weekly meetings. Other teams are doing those and it seems to be a good
> way to show the world what is going on in the WG -- with meeting status
> reports and all that stuff.

Right.  Christian suggested using more of a FESCo model, which would
mean regular meetings (perhaps every-other week?) and possibly a trac
instance to track work items.  Originally we avoided this overhead
because the intention was to "Get stuff done", but in hindsight that's
lead to a lack of transparency and accountability.

Unless there are major objections or helpful other suggestions, I'll
work with the Fedora infrastructure team to get a trac instance setup
and we can work out meetings shortly.  (I hate trac, but there's no
better solution that I'm aware of.)

josh
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