On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/29/2014 08:31 AM, drago01 wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Josh Boyer >> <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Gallagher >>> <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> On 01/29/2014 08:08 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 04:59 -0500, Christian Schaller wrote: >>>>>>> 2) What is the actual deliverable and delivery mechanism >>>>>>> for Workstation? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is asking how we intend to ship the Workstation >>>>>>> product. ISO, live USB image, something else? >>>>>> >>>>>> There is no plan to change this from what has been the >>>>>> primary delivery methods of Fedora so far. That said I >>>>>> think the emphasis will need to change where a USB sticks >>>>>> is the primary medium and DVDs the secondary. >>>>> >>>>> Two notes in this regard: >>>>> >>>>> 1) If we are going the USB way (which I think is the way to >>>>> go as many laptops are removing CD/DVD and we also save some >>>>> trees in the meantime), we should look at ways to improve the >>>>> USB creation experience and documetnation wrt to the current >>>>> state. I would make it a priority to focus on making it >>>>> specially easy for Windows and Mac OS X users. >>>>> >>>>> 2) I would remove the DVD install-only option. Focusing only >>>>> the installable Live media. The reason for this suggestion is >>>>> that it would remove the amount of media we have to test and >>>>> release and that it will reduce that confusing choice for >>>>> users (if you're new it's hard to figure out which option is >>>>> best or whether it matters at all). >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'd be very wary of doing this. The big problem with the live >>>> install option is that it's highly limited in the storage >>>> configurations it can use. There will certainly be users out >>>> there who will want to install Fedora Workstation on systems >>>> with complicated storage setups. The live media probably won't >>>> work for them. >>> >>> How relevant to Workstation is that? >> >> It isn't because the Live Install no longer does the "dd image to >> disk" thing but just creates partitons, mounts and copies the >> data. So there is no limit to storage configuration I know of. >> > > Hmm, I must have missed that we're no longer doing that. So the > "install from live image" now has full access to the anaconda storage > manager? If that's the case, I withdraw my concerns. Yes I don't know of anything that's missing but I have not compared both and checked every single option. >> Stephen anything specific that does not work for you using live? >> > > Truthfully, I haven't installed from live media since around F16. I > always install with the net iso. OK. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop