On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/29/2014 08:08 AM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 04:59 -0500, Christian Schaller wrote: >>>> 2) What is the actual deliverable and delivery mechanism for >>>> Workstation? >>>> >>>> This is asking how we intend to ship the Workstation product. >>>> ISO, live USB image, something else? >>> >>> There is no plan to change this from what has been the primary >>> delivery methods of Fedora so far. That said I think the emphasis >>> will need to change where a USB sticks is the primary medium and >>> DVDs the secondary. >> >> Two notes in this regard: >> >> 1) If we are going the USB way (which I think is the way to go as >> many laptops are removing CD/DVD and we also save some trees in >> the meantime), we should look at ways to improve the USB creation >> experience and documetnation wrt to the current state. I would make >> it a priority to focus on making it specially easy for Windows and >> Mac OS X users. >> >> 2) I would remove the DVD install-only option. Focusing only the >> installable Live media. The reason for this suggestion is that it >> would remove the amount of media we have to test and release and >> that it will reduce that confusing choice for users (if you're new >> it's hard to figure out which option is best or whether it matters >> at all). >> > > I'd be very wary of doing this. The big problem with the live install > option is that it's highly limited in the storage configurations it > can use. There will certainly be users out there who will want to > install Fedora Workstation on systems with complicated storage setups. > The live media probably won't work for them. How relevant to Workstation is that? I can see Server wanting to deal with iSCSI and all kinds of other weird storage technology, but for Workstation I'm not sure that's the case. Also, in terms of delivering a stable and "best of class" _product_, I'm not sure allowing people to tweak their install to have 32 partitions with f2fs as / and /home as btrfs with subvolumes is all that great. I'm not saying those things shouldn't be possible, but I am wondering if the Workstation deliverable is really the place to have those. > An option however would be to provide a single USB image that provides > both the live image and the install-only image, selectable at GRUB > (defaulting to booting into the live image). Possibly. >> It might be worth keeping the DVD somewhere but I wouldn't keep it >> as a visible way to install the workstation product. I really dislike the DVD overall. Particularly when it comes to a product setup. Unless the DVD becomes "install Workstation, or Server, or Cloud" (or some combination thereof), then I see no point in continuing it as it is today. josh -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
