On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 15:45 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 20:30 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> >> On fös 13.des 2013 17:28, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> >> > Really? >> >> > >> >> > The KDE SIG has full access to change what gets installed when you >> >> > install from the DVD. If you're saying it's releng and FESCo's >> >> > responsibility to fix that, then as a releng and FESCo member, I'll fix it... >> >> >> >> Who decided what's shipped on the dvd ? >> > >> > So avoiding the grandstanding, I'd say FESCo probably is the arbiter of >> > 'what major groups do we put on the DVD?', but it's not FESCo's job to >> > micro-manage specifically what packages are in each group. >> > >> > So it's not necessarily the KDE SIG's job/role to decide whether KDE can >> > go on the DVD - that is up to a Higher Power - but it *is* KDE SIG's >> > job/role to maintain the actual KDE package groups in comps. Ditto for >> > Desktop/GNOME. >> >> If both major DE groups don't care about the DVD contents because they >> feel their respective Spins are their main concern, then it's not >> entirely hyperbolic to just not ship the DVD at all. > > Let's clarify before we go too far down this path: jreznik told me this > was the case for KDE SIG. Other members of KDE SIG don't seem to be > quite so clear about it, and no-one from desktop SIG has said they don't > curate their DVD contents and don't think that package set is important. > Sorry if the discussion so far has given a different impression. You didn't give that impression. I was extrapolating and pontificating. It's Friday. :) >> I think we're >> already heading down this path with the 3 product approach, so it's >> not something to be cast aside as unrealistic. > > You can see which path the 3 product approach is headed down?! Where do > I sign to borrow your crystal ball? :) With 3 products, I don't think it takes a crystal ball to foresee that the existing DVD is either going to be changed significantly or not exist. I was leaning towards "not exist". josh -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop