On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 15:45 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 20:30 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> On fös 13.des 2013 17:28, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >> > Really? > >> > > >> > The KDE SIG has full access to change what gets installed when you > >> > install from the DVD. If you're saying it's releng and FESCo's > >> > responsibility to fix that, then as a releng and FESCo member, I'll fix it... > >> > >> Who decided what's shipped on the dvd ? > > > > So avoiding the grandstanding, I'd say FESCo probably is the arbiter of > > 'what major groups do we put on the DVD?', but it's not FESCo's job to > > micro-manage specifically what packages are in each group. > > > > So it's not necessarily the KDE SIG's job/role to decide whether KDE can > > go on the DVD - that is up to a Higher Power - but it *is* KDE SIG's > > job/role to maintain the actual KDE package groups in comps. Ditto for > > Desktop/GNOME. > > If both major DE groups don't care about the DVD contents because they > feel their respective Spins are their main concern, then it's not > entirely hyperbolic to just not ship the DVD at all. Let's clarify before we go too far down this path: jreznik told me this was the case for KDE SIG. Other members of KDE SIG don't seem to be quite so clear about it, and no-one from desktop SIG has said they don't curate their DVD contents and don't think that package set is important. Sorry if the discussion so far has given a different impression. > I think we're > already heading down this path with the 3 product approach, so it's > not something to be cast aside as unrealistic. You can see which path the 3 product approach is headed down?! Where do I sign to borrow your crystal ball? :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop