On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 11:45 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > I would expect changes to /etc/sudoers or /etc/pam.d/sudo to happen > > globally and not only on the spin. Not sure what exactly we are talking > > about but I'm sure we are not talking about changes in the livesys > > initscript that will affect the live mode only. > > I ... wouldn't, necessarily. At least, if we're really going to allow > people to target different use cases, we can't be tied to the least > common denominator and still make progress. > > Of course, that goes back to the purpose of spins, and what they can > and can't do. I agree. This is a classic case where lack of use case focus hobbles the planning. The discussion of a good system of gaining root privilege for the desktop use case has been sniped by reference to the server use case. Ubuntu doesn't have this problem - and hence was perfectly happy to use the sudo setup - because Ubuntu clearly and confidently refuse to target the server use case in the Ubuntu product. They have the Ubuntu Server product for the server use case (and, I assume, that doesn't use the same OOTB setup Ubuntu uses). Hence no problem for them. When we lack that focus, we get into these circular, tail-chasing discussions. As Jon McCann said in his reply, the current spin situation just gives us the worst of both worlds - the appearance of differentiated products, but with problems in really differentiating them in ways we really ought to, because we insist on lots of 'consistency' between the spins. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
