On 5/16/07, Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I use fedora from fc1 and I have never heard of Mugshot - and how many new users will use it even if they know about it? I guess not too many - and those who use it will be geeks, not your standard fedora desktop user.
First of all, you are making a pile of assumptions concerning what a "standard fedora desktop user" and what a "geek" is and assuming that "geeks" don't make up a majority of the installed userbase. This really needs to stop. You can not have sensible arguments predicated on your perception of what the average or standard or geek user is using. There are only two ways to approach a constructive conversation concerning things like what default applications should be from a user perspective. 1) Define a narrowly tailored definition of ideal usage/user scenario, that in no way claims to be typical or average. You haven't really laided out a case as to why k3b is needed as a default. Just because it has the most functionality (in your view) doesn't mean its the best choice to meet any specific functionality requirements in a targetted usage case. Maximum functionality is not a usage case. Once people agree that this usage/user scenario is worth targeting, then everyone can discuss application choices based on that usage/user. Compromises then are made to best satisfy the competing demands of all targeted usage/user scenarios and technical constraints resulting in a solution that may not be optimal for any specific scenario. 2) Discussion using statistically significant metrics concerning applications in wide use, to help determine what functionality the targeted usage scenarios isn't providing that is commonly needed in the real-world installbase. This sort of thing is very hard to do because until Mugshot started doing what Mugshot is doing, there's no metric on application usage. If you care about trying to gauge what the userbase is actually using (installing is not using), then you should definitely be looking very closely at what Mugshot is doing with application metrics. Mugshot is pretty much the only tool right now that can claim to give any systematic picture of relative application usage in the fedora userbase. If Mugshot can be enabled on enough systems to give a representative sampling of the install base, then its your best and only hope at having real metrics for application usage to mull over instead of personal perceptions. -jef"9 out of 10 Helen's agree, I miss grip"spaleta -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list
