Re: [PATCH] drm/doc: device hot-unplug for userspace

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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:44 PM Christian König
<christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Am 27.05.20 um 17:23 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
> >
> > On 5/27/20 10:39 AM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:51 PM Andrey Grodzovsky
> >> <Andrey.Grodzovsky@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 5/27/20 2:44 AM, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 26 May 2020 10:30:20 -0400
> >>>> Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 5/19/20 6:06 AM, Pekka Paalanen wrote:
> >>>>>> From: Pekka Paalanen <pekka.paalanen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Set up the expectations on how hot-unplugging a DRM device should
> >>>>>> look like to
> >>>>>> userspace.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Written by Daniel Vetter's request and largely based on his
> >>>>>> comments in IRC and
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.freedesktop.org%2Farchives%2Fdri-devel%2F2020-May%2F265484.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7C3c671803b2ba41b2ceac08d8024bcc9a%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637261871869742519&amp;sdata=ZnhylRubOM0%2BjoreSSYMqVDzZuUdybEsoyBVcTKgxWE%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >>>>>> .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Pekka Paalanen <pekka.paalanen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Cc: Andrey Grodzovsky <andrey.grodzovsky@xxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Cc: Sean Paul <sean@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Disclaimer: I am a userspace developer writing for other
> >>>>>> userspace developers.
> >>>>>> I took some liberties in defining what should happen without
> >>>>>> knowing what is
> >>>>>> actually possible or what existing drivers already implement.
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>     Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst | 75
> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>     1 file changed, 75 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> >>>>>> b/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> >>>>>> index 56fec6ed1ad8..80db4abd2cbd 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> >>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/gpu/drm-uapi.rst
> >>>>>> @@ -1,3 +1,5 @@
> >>>>>> +.. Copyright 2020 DisplayLink (UK) Ltd.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>>     ===================
> >>>>>>     Userland interfaces
> >>>>>>     ===================
> >>>>>> @@ -162,6 +164,79 @@ other hand, a driver requires shared state
> >>>>>> between clients which is
> >>>>>>     visible to user-space and accessible beyond open-file
> >>>>>> boundaries, they
> >>>>>>     cannot support render nodes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +Device Hot-Unplug
> >>>>>> +=================
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +.. note::
> >>>>>> +   The following is the plan. Implementation is not there yet
> >>>>>> +   (2020 May 13).
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +Graphics devices (display and/or render) may be connected via
> >>>>>> USB (e.g.
> >>>>>> +display adapters or docking stations) or Thunderbolt (e.g.
> >>>>>> eGPU). An end
> >>>>>> +user is able to hot-unplug this kind of devices while they are
> >>>>>> being
> >>>>>> +used, and expects that the very least the machine does not
> >>>>>> crash. Any
> >>>>>> +damage from hot-unplugging a DRM device needs to be limited as
> >>>>>> much as
> >>>>>> +possible and userspace must be given the chance to handle it if
> >>>>>> it wants
> >>>>>> +to. Ideally, unplugging a DRM device still lets a desktop to
> >>>>>> continue
> >>>>>> +running, but that is going to need explicit support throughout
> >>>>>> the whole
> >>>>>> +graphics stack: from kernel and userspace drivers, through display
> >>>>>> +servers, via window system protocols, and in applications and
> >>>>>> libraries.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +Other scenarios that should lead to the same are: unrecoverable GPU
> >>>>>> +crash, PCI device disappearing off the bus, or forced unbind of
> >>>>>> a driver
> >>>>>> +from the physical device.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +In other words, from userspace perspective everything needs to
> >>>>>> keep on
> >>>>>> +working more or less, until userspace stops using the
> >>>>>> disappeared DRM
> >>>>>> +device and closes it completely. Userspace will learn of the device
> >>>>>> +disappearance from the device removed uevent or in some cases
> >>>>>> specific
> >>>>>> +ioctls returning EIO.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +This goal raises at least the following requirements for the
> >>>>>> kernel and
> >>>>>> +drivers:
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- The kernel must not hang, crash or oops, no matter what
> >>>>>> userspace was
> >>>>>> +  in the middle of doing when the device disappeared.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- All GPU jobs that can no longer run must have their fences
> >>>>>> +  force-signalled to avoid inflicting hangs to userspace.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- KMS connectors must change their status to disconnected.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- Legacy modesets and pageflips fake success.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- Atomic commits, both real and TEST_ONLY, fake success.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- Pending non-blocking KMS operations deliver the DRM events
> >>>>>> userspace
> >>>>>> +  is expecting.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- If underlying memory disappears, the mmaps are replaced with
> >>>>>> harmless
> >>>>>> +  zero pages where access does not raise SIGBUS. Reads return
> >>>>>> zeros,
> >>>>>> +  writes are ignored.
> >>>>> Regarding this paragraph - what about exiting mappings ? In the first
> >>>>> patchset we would actively invalidate all the existing CPU
> >>>>> mappings to
> >>>>> device memory and i think we still should do it otherwise we will see
> >>>>> random crashes in applications as was before. I guess it's because
> >>>>> TLBs
> >>>>> and page tables are not updated to reflect the fact the device is
> >>>>> gone.
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I was talking about existing mappings. What I forgot to specify is how
> >>>> new mmap() calls after the device disappearance should work (the end
> >>>> result should be the same still, not failure).
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll clarify this in the next revision.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> pq
> >>>
> >>> I see, that ok.
> >>>
> >>> Next related question is more for Daniel/Christian - about the
> >>> implementation of this paragraph, I was thinking about something like
> >>> checking for device disconnect in ttm_bo_vm_fault_reserved and if so
> >>> remap the entire VA range for the VMA where the fault address
> >>> belongs to
> >>> the global zero page (i.e. (remap_pfn_range(vma, vma->vm_start,
> >>> page_to_pfn(ZERO_PAGE(vma->vm_start), vma->vm_end - vma->vm_start,
> >>> vma->vm_page_prot)). Question is, when the doc says 'writes are
> >>> ignored'
> >>> does it mean i should use copy on write for the vma->vm_page_prot
> >>> and if
> >>> so how i actually do it as i was not able to find what flags to set
> >>> into
> >>> vm_page_prot to force copy on write behavior.
> >> Already discussed this with Pekka on irc, I think simply a private
> >> page (per gpu ctx to avoid leaks) is good enough. Otherwise we need to
> >> catch write faults and throw the writes away, and that's a) a bit
> >> tricky to implement and b) slow, which we kinda don't want to. If the
> >> desktop is stuck for a few seconds because we're trapping every write
> >> of a 4k buffer that's getting uploaded, the user is going to have a
> >> bad time :-/
> >> -Daniel
> >
> >
> > So like allocating a page per process context in the driver (struct
> > amdgpu_ctx in amdgpu) and mapping this page into the faulting VMAs
> > for when device is disconnected ? I am still not clear how i make the
> > mapping ignore writes without catching write faults and ignoring them.
> > I cannot just make it read only obviously and i can't make it writable
> > as then reading back will start returning non 0's. My question is what
> > set of flags in vm_area_struct.vm_flags can (if at all) give me
> > 'ignore writes' behavior for the mapping of that page.
>
> I'm not aware of a possibility like that on x86 CPUs. As far as I know
> we only have something like an ignore write functionality on our GPUs
> for PRTs.
>
> Could we use an address which points to a non allocated MMIO space or
> something like this? We would might get 0xffffffff on reads instead of
> 0x0, but writes would be certainly ignored.

I think just a page with garbage in, garbage out semantics is going to
be ok. I think pretty much anything has a chance to upset userspace,
so whether it's 0 or all 1s or anything else doesn't really matter.

Only thing that does matter a bit is that we have a page per fd, so
that we don't accidentally leak something between processes where we
shouldn't. I think as long as we don't crash&burn in a SIGBUS it's
good enough.
-Daniel

>
> Christian.
>
> >
> > Andrey
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> Andrey
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- dmabuf which point to memory that has disappeared are
> >>>>>> rewritten to
> >>>>>> +  point to harmless zero pages, similar to mmaps. Imports still
> >>>>>> succeed
> >>>>>> +  both ways: an existing device importing a dmabuf pointing to
> >>>>>> +  disappeared memory, and a disappeared device importing any
> >>>>>> dmabuf.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +- Render ioctls return EIO which is then handled in userspace
> >>>>>> drivers,
> >>>>>> +  e.g. Mesa, to have the device disappearance handled in the way
> >>>>>> +  specified for each API (OpenGL, GL ES: GL_KHR_robustness;
> >>>>>> +  Vulkan: VK_ERROR_DEVICE_LOST; etc.)
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +Raising SIGBUS is not an option, because userspace cannot
> >>>>>> realistically
> >>>>>> +handle it.  Signal handlers are global, which makes them extremely
> >>>>>> +difficult to use correctly from libraries like Mesa produces.
> >>>>>> Signal
> >>>>>> +handlers are not composable, you can't have different handlers
> >>>>>> for GPU1
> >>>>>> +and GPU2 from different vendors, and a third handler for mmapped
> >>>>>> regular
> >>>>>> +files.  Threads cause additional pain with signal handling as well.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +Only after userspace has closed all relevant DRM device and
> >>>>>> dmabuf file
> >>>>>> +descriptors and removed all mmaps, the DRM driver can tear down its
> >>>>>> +instance for the device that no longer exists. If the same physical
> >>>>>> +device somehow comes back in the mean time, it shall be a new DRM
> >>>>>> +device.
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>>     .. _drm_driver_ioctl:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>     IOCTL Support on Device Nodes
> >>
> >>
>


-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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