Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] RISC-V: skip parsing multi-letter extensions starting with caps

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On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 02:58:45PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 03:08:25PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 01:47:39PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 02:18:52PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:43:24AM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > > > > Yangyu Chen reported that if an multi-letter extension begins with a
> > > > > capital letter the parser will treat the remainder of that multi-letter
> > > > > extension as single-letter extensions.
> > > > 
> > > > I think the problem is that the parser doesn't completely abort when
> > > > it sees something it doesn't understand. Continuing is risky since
> > > > it may be possible to compose an invalid string that gets the parser
> > > > to run off the rails.
> > > 
> > > Usually I am of the opinion that we should not seek the validate the dt
> > > in the kernel, since there are tools for doing so *cough* dt-validate
> > > *cough*. This one seemed like low hanging fruit though, since the parser
> > > handles having capital letters in any of the other places after the
> > > rv##, but falls over pretty badly for this particular issue.
> > > 
> > > In general, I don't think we need to be concerned about anything that
> > > fails dt-validate though, you kinda need to trust that that is correct.
> > > I'd argue that we might even do too much validation in the parser at
> > > present.
> > > Is there some attack vector, or ACPI related consideration, that I am
> > > unaware of that makes this risky?
> > 
> > C language + string processing == potential attack vector
> 
> Right. I thought there was some specific scenario that you had in mind,
> rather than the "obvious" "parsing strings is bad".

Yup, I only pointed out the obvious since it's always possible, at least
for me, to lose sight of the forest for the trees.

> What I was wondering is whether the devicetree is an attack vector you
> actually have to care about? I had thought it wasn't, hence asking.

Nope, I haven't put any thought into this potential attack vector beyond
this discussion.

> 
> > > > How about completely aborting, noisily, when the string doesn't match
> > > > expectations, falling back to a default string such as rv64ima instead.
> > > > That also ought to get faster corrections of device trees.
> > > 
> > > I did this first actually, but I was afraid that it would cause
> > > regressions?
> > > 
> > > If you have riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc_Zifencei_zicbom", yes that is
> > > invalid and dt-validate would have told you so, but at present that
> > > would be parsed as "rv64imafdc_zicbom" which is a perfect description of
> > > the hardware in question (since the meaning of i was set before RVI made
> > > a hames of things).
> 
> After thinking about it a bit cycling home, I don't actually think that
> this would be a regression. If your dt is not valid, then that's your
> problem, not ours :)
> Valid dt will be parsed correctly before and after such a change, so I
> think that that is actually okay.
> The dt-binding exists for a reason, and can be pointed to if anyone
> claims this is a regression I think.

I agree.

> 
> > > So that's why I opted to not do some sort of pr_err/BUG()/WARN() and
> > > try to keep processing the string. I'm happy to abort entirely on
> > > reaching a capital if people feel there's unlikely to be a fallout from
> > > that.
> > 
> > There might be fallout, but the kernel needs to defend itself. IMO, if
> > the kernel doesn't know how to parse something, then it should stop
> > trying to immediately, either with a BUG(), refusing to accept any
> > part of it, by fallbacking back to a default, or by only accepting what
> > it believes it parsed correctly.
> > 
> > The third option is probably a reasonable choice in this case.
> 
> My patch could be interpreted as meeting the criteria for option 3.
> I think you instead mean "stop parsing at that point & only report the
> extensions seen prior to the first bad one"?

Right.

Thanks,
drew



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